Follow up stress / stressors.

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: Threes stages of adaptation ( GAS - general adaptation syndrom. : Very simple put : : 1. first we have to get into the swing of it. : Some people would refere as the struggle phase. : 2. second , we may are getting pretty good at it. : 3. we finally may tire out and lose acquired efficency. : The goal of an athlete shouldbe to go trough stage 1 and 2 . : The main problems may be in stage 1 . The stabilization may be in stage 2. : Stage 1. As Cris and others mentioned , it would be nice to measure or see certain things , and this is the focus on our training idea. : So if we plan a training we try not to apply a stress , but try to define a stressor. : As Selye writes , stress is not that which causes an alarm reaction. The stressor does that , not the stress itself. : So if I can find , what the stressor is , I may be able to better controle the bodys respond. : Example : I send an athlete out for a 1 hour ride off road . I stress him , but I do not know what kind of stressors I am applying and therefor any reaction on his body after the training is uncontrolled. As long he is getting better the athlete and the coach is ahppy. They think it is because of this stress ( 1 h biking ) If the athlete is a coach potato it will be mostly a succesful training. The problem actually is , if the athlete does not make any progress. No what and why : : Was the hard push up this 3 min. hill too hard or not hard enough . Was the 10 min flat section with 100 RPM the reason for not responding well . and so on. : That's one of the reasons , why we keep some of our trainings very specific in one certain area ( zone , intensity or what ever you like to use as a word. : That's also a reason , why coaching programs based on age and hours and what ever sounds smart may not work. That's why you may need a coach , who works and measures you ( what ever you can measure.) : This will clearly limit the amount of athletes you can work with , but you may have a much more individualized approoach . : Here some possible reasons , why you have to work individually , and why Duncan's question is not so easy to solve : : ( Hans Selve ) : 1. Qualitatively different agents of equal toxicity or stressor potency do not necessarily elict exactly the same reactions in different people. : 2.Even the same degree of stress ( for example altitude or intervall ) , induced by the same agent , may produce different effects and even lesions in different individuals. : Like Cris pointed out . A good basic aerobic state will help to react different on an intervall work out than a poorly trained athlete. : This is one big problem in canadian icehockey coaches ( sorry ) but the base of any icehockey players would or should be a really good aerobic base to survive the up and downs of PH and lactic acid stresses during a game or even during a typically icehockey training. : We use ven in sports like 400 / 800 m runners a lot of time in basic endurance building. , not exactly for the race , but it is a training for the training for 400 and 800 meter. You can train harder intervalls and more repetitions if yo have a better aerobic base. : We will see this later. : 3. The effects specific to any given agent usually modify the effects and manifestations of the general stress syndrome ( thus . it look many years to recognize and prove the existance of the latter.) : Sounds like Cris is right with , it takes time. : 4. The fact that the state of stress , even if due to the same agent , can cause different effects in different individuals , has been traced to " conditioning factors " that can selectively enhance or inhibit one or the other stress effect. : Sound kind of Lactate and mitochondria and how this is interacting. : Under the influence of certain conditioniong factors ( bad aerobic base as an example ) a normally well- tolerated degree of stress can even become pathogenic , selectively affecting those parts of the body that are particularly sensitized both by those conditioning factors and by the specific effects ot the eliciting agent, just as physical tensions of equal strength in different chains will break the particular link that is the weakest as a result of internal or external factors. : Sound like the guy with the PC who killed his hipflexors . : Or the kid , who is getting sick after ahard intervall he did already 6 times . And you know all other kind of examples. : So back to Duncan , if he is still with us. : My answer is , Yes and no : So still the same. : Tomorrow I will give you some " view " into picture off acid training and the first stage or struggle stage. : In the mean time think back to research you were reading lately and combine the above with the possible value of the result from that particular research. : Ex: a group of 10 athletes are getting stresssed by 75 % of VO2 max. : What do you think about that , the stress is known , do we know the stressor. Are the really equal and is 75 % really 75 % . : Have to go I am getting dizzy just thinking on all of that . See you tomorrow,

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